I thought of #water-cooler as a nice way of sharing about completely off-topic things.
I think a read-only version of #ships-log in a completely open space used more as designed is great.
I also think we need a place to share on-topic links that people really should be reading. Whether we learn to use the forum more and do it here, or in Discord it should happen.
TBH, I am somewhat disappointed about how little general governance geek conversation happens in “public” in the community. I think that to live up to the reputation that has already been created that kind of conversation needs to be more public in the community. That is why I was very consciously supporting @wgow to join us. (Yes, I know there is some that happened in gov-naut as a part of research, but that is not the same thing, and I saw much less active participation there, than I really would have liked to.)
@julz has brought out how challenging what we are all trying to do is, and I don’t think as a community we have as conscientious a focus on the reality of that, and therefore a live enough community conversation around it. What happens on Twitter, is not enough, nor is it even remotely the ideal forum for it.
My biggest concern is that due to time constraints, even good contributors have a hard time taking in information, processing it, and participating around it meaningfully. We’re even seeing this around governance, and therefore witnessing in a small dOrg all the problems we know exist for DAOs.
With that I think the essential question asked by several people of what Sonar Labs really wants from this community in an explicit memorialized answer would be very helpful. (I know we’re slowly getting there with the governance process, I am just calling out the importance of it, as we also try and make progress in producing shareable value as a community.)
Although you have been forthcoming with your views, we need an official Sonar Labs response where you all have consensus on it.
People will give more real and focused time to the community, when they have a reasonable belief that their investment in time and energy will be rewarded in the ways that are valuable to them, whether that is a crypto-asset, or some other way.
With the ambiguity of what the community is about it is almost impossible for itself to choose to pull itself up by its own bootstraps because of the feeling that it won’t be “Ok.” And, if Sonar Labs is to be the primary grantor of funds, even for kickstarting something other than a Discord community, we need to know exactly what it is trying to create to make sure we are in alignment with that before we make significant investments of our time and energy believing we will eventually get our “reward” of whatever kind as desiered by the individual.